Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy over het 'Charles materiaal' - zéér levendig!

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Sinds Bill Ryan het interview met 'Charles' op het internet heeft gezet is er een nogal levendige en interessante discussie onstaan op het Project Avalon forum. Op een gegeven moment is 'Charles' daarop zelf ook ten tonele verschenen om rechtstreeks te antwoorden. 

Hieronder volgt een samenvatting door Bill Ryan over hetgeen er in de afgelopen maand aan informatie naar voren is gekomen. Het bevat een aantal explosieve en ook boute beweringen over van alles en nog wat achter de schermen van het wereldtoneel.

Kerry Cassidy stelt op haar eigen blog terecht een aantal zaken aan de kaak waar niet lichtzinnig overheen gestapt kan worden. Die vindt je daaronder. Het zijn nogal lappen Engelse tekst (vertalers heel welkom!), maar je zult je er echter geen minuut mee vervelen. Het betere puntje-van-je-stoelwerk zeg maar.

Zonder enige introductie in Project Camelot of de wat diepere verborgen kanten van de wereldmachten zal dit nauwelijks te lezen zijn. Als introductie zou je veel beter met bijvoorbeeld the Callling kunnen beginnen en/of een paar andere Project Camelot video's gaan bekijken. Of je nu gelooft wat er gezegd wordt of niet, je kijk op de wereld verandert er zeer waarschijnlijk wel door.

Zoals gezegd eerst de samenvatting van Bill:

Questions and Answers from Bill about the Charles material

OK in a desperate attempt to keep up with my original plan of creating a basic/overview of this material here I've tried to edit/update it in the brief period that Charles and Bill are taking a break (I can't imagine how absolutely knackered those two must be). So, as before, I'd appreciate any thoughts on having missed anything that deserves to be included or suggestions for brevity (for obvious reasons).


The Machine, The 33, Charles’ Master, The Key

The Machine
Believed to be a Cray 5 supercomputer (described by Dr. Bill Deagle and Jake Simpson), of which there seem to be four (Bill Deagle -Colorado, Barry King aka Spirit Wolf -New Mexico, and Bill suspects one in Pine Gap), are A.I. and contain a virtual model of all human society. They are used for making forecasts. The machine or machines also have all human knowledge in the database - including everything that is not in the public domain... and ”The machine knows when it's being talked or thought about.” http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html It’s connected to a fairly high strung person who is a friend (of sorts) of Charles. It consists of 5 bays and is liquid cooled. A person lies in a jelly substance and a connection is inserted into their back while a breathing apparatus is placed over the mouth and nose. It is cold, unpleasant and Charles nearly died after being connected for 2 hours. The techie bits are impressive but its real value is the information it can access and interact with. It was designed by humans, one of whom was 13 years old, and has existed for around 24 years. This experience has left Charles with a remaining (though unusual or even unique) connection with the machine and cancer.


The 33
The unnamed society that holds the most knowledge and influence (current suspicion is that they reincarnate with full knowledge of their previous lives). At the moment they don’t seem to be the most powerful human authority on the planet (but this is a “tricky” qualification). They have never been in control of the modern world, that’s been controlled by man. There are other human power structures capable of confronting or overriding The 33’s authority. They aren’t afraid of anyone (only each other) and with good reason. They are not managing the power mongers and heavy players in the world because they have chosen not to interfere. Of humanity, descendants of various lines have different attributes and some of The 33 have been dabbling. There is a debate as to whether this is interfering with the experiment and its random engine. Charles’ Master states that this contentious point is where all the disagreements of the last 500 or 600 years end up at. They are not “The Elite” like we think of them (i.e. the banking world, feds, etc.) They are far older than any religion ( “and it’s the stinking lows who do the Satan stuff, which is also rubbish” ). None are women.
Very recently, The 33 have undergone multiple fractures which has dwindled their number of coordinating members down to 7 (33, then 27, then 17, and now 7). It’s these remaining 7 (non-purists) who initially sent Charles’ to “handle” Bill after the predictive modeling of the Cray machine indicated that Bill would be playing a major leadership role in the alternative community. These 7 in particular seem to have a very flexible definition of “non-interference”.
The 33 are observed (by E.T.s) but don’t seem to have any type of authority directing them. Their existence used to be general knowledge among the 427 important families but is not anymore. They believe that at the end of this experiment they will “get a seat on the big board table, if you catch my drift.”


Charles’ Master/Philippe
Has been a member of The 33 for over 5000 years and is now acting separately from them. Charles ranks him as #1 in age/seniority, though it’s doubtful that the rest of the group see him as Charles’ does. His age does, however, make him a rather special member of the group. He is not what we would call Annunaki nor is he related to them. “He is a genetic anomaly, a throwback so many years past. He sheds his skin. They are rare and very respected. The longer they last, the larger the respect; Wisdom comes with experience and longevity.” There has been only a couple like him over the last 11,000 years and he is the oldest by at least 2300 years. He was a beggar in India for some 200 years. Charles’ says that he scares everyone he meets with his smile and is the most mentally powerful being he’s ever encountered (said by a man whose had other’s make him bleed with a thought). He enjoys all forms of art and can plays several instruments. Charles’ and his Master sleep at different times so that they may watch each other’s backs.
Bill met a man at a conference who identified himself as “Philippe” that Charles' later identified as his master. He is appx. 6' tall, vaguely Mediterranean looking and appeared to be in his late 30's. Philippe said he was a doctor and scientist who operated internationally. It is believed that Philippe created a Tulpa see post to meet Bill who has since had other psychic encounters with him see post.
The fracturing of The 33 has created a kind of power vacuum through which there is an opportunity for change. His plan to focus the alternative community is “very detailed and extremely complicated.” Charles has noticed that his master seemed especially observant and said, “...I always noticed things went the way he whispered to me.” It’s been implied that Charles’ Master actually arranged the steps needed for Charles to have a change of heart upon meeting Bill.


The Key
Charles’ has confiscated a key to an apparatus on the moon. The key is unique, works only for this planet and he is threatening to destroy it. He’s initiated a Mexican standoff with The 33 and this is also why he’s able to divulge so much information. He has stated that if the remaining faction of The 33 are able to replicate their own key then we are all well and truly f**ked, it’s the only thing that really worries him. Charles’ does not believe this is likely but...


The Key to Change
Read Charles’ post on the lengthy discussion about his comments concerning women being the key to changing the power structure. The stark contrast in writing styles has led some (including Bill) to conclude that this was actually Charles’ master channeling though him. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...728#post110728

Current Conspiracies & Ongoing Secrets

Humans have no communication with the group of ETs who initially began the human experiment but there are, of course, many other ETs who don’t seem to be so encumbered.

Earth is not under quarantine.

The planet is expanding.

Some of the pyramids are machines and others are just disguised bunkers. They are kind of like power stations which can propel things to other planets.

The elite have been using technology to boost their own latent abilities for a really long time (in their effort to overcome the creators).

E.T.s have nothing to do with the recent disabling of missiles.

The Georgia Guidestones are a manifesto.

Chemtrails are a reflective material.

GMO food does not reprogram DNA but is not altogether “safe”. Food additives do not attack specific bloodlines, they attack everyone.

The first couple of crop circles were drone landing zones in GMO fields. After which, overzealous students and societies with scaffold boards and GPS took up the hobby.

Everyone has hidden/suppressed abilities similar to Charles.

Concerning eye color Bill has said, “I think it's because the eyes are at least one key to understanding a person's latent (or active) abilities or capabilities, through their genetic 'blueprint'. But I'm really not 100% certain about this. It's my best answer.”

Modern humans are not all of the same genetic origin. However, genetic heritage does not matter.


The Plan & Upcoming Expectations

Charles’ Master’s plan is certain and cannot be stopped. It is not a destructive thing, it is a positive thing. Avalon’s role will be to facilitate others in there endeavors to create the first civilization. Bill’s interpretation was that First = Truly New and Avalon would be a model for the new civilization.

Things are moving very fast.

There are 6 years (or thereabouts) to fight on a non-violent level (such as financial). Initially clearing the path by going after specific companies in order of their offense.

The riots in Egypt have hidden The 33s acquiring of an artifact which is part of a mechanism that is an integral part of the pyramid machine. They’d been searching for it since it’s existence was proven (maybe 200 years) as all the others had been removed from the planet (this one was supposed to be a kind of fail safe). They hope to use the artifact to manufacture another mechanism for the machine but Charles does not think this is possible.

The luciferians are staging a revolt against the creators and have aligned themselves with a faction of The 33.

There is, close at hand, a rare and major event attracting the return of many involved with the human experiment. (Charles has said that “experiment” is a crude word for the situation on this planet.)

The internet is very useful tool for the PTB and unlikely to fall.

Depression, anxiety and loneliness (among other things) can all be signs that someone is tuning into the changes that are taking place in the world. [Charles' answer to Q31 by aquarian is poetic and worth reading http://calatoriecatrecentru.com/ques...ions/index#q41 ]



Instances & Individuals

The Chilean Mining incident seems to have only been an accident and was not connected to The 33.

British intel was aware of the planned attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 but chose not to act because they wanted America to join the war effort.

The mass animal deaths are a little prep work for a planned false flag E.T. attack. Also some saber rattling among the elites. HAARP is involved but not how most think.

The Moon is a staging post to Mars.

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill was just due to a bunch of greedy selfish wankers.

David Icke is a very courageous individual who has everyone’s best interests at heart.

Concerning Bill Deagle and Nemesis – The system is binary. There is a perturbing affect from something but it’s not an E.L.E.

Questions deserving their own thread or Unanswered due to length

Diet
Blood type
Spiritual beings & incarnation

A defining moment in Charles' life is worth reading in its entirety http://calatoriecatrecentru.com/ques...ons/index#q104

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A review by Kerry Lynn Cassidy from Project Camelot of The Rulers of the World interview by Bill Ryan

Notes on Rulers of the World interview

FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT

May the best 'man' win? Is that where this is at? With the recent interview released by Bill Ryan the questions that arise are many.

According to a Source, 'Charles" is not telling the truth when he says the nuclear option is off the table. They substantiate this by referencing recent nuclear tests by France and clandestine nuclear tests that are likely going on underground in India and elsewhere. It is of course highly desirable that be the case. The shutdown of the minutemen missiles documented by Robert Salas and other recent disclosure witnesses at the National Press Club would seem to support this idea. The trouble is, the data is conflicting.

So what else about what is talked about in the interview with Charles, is questionable, in either the lack of clear information or the obfuscation of the material? The clearest statement seems to be in relation to the threat from GMO foods. The garnering of control over the seeds. But this is old news and well known in the alternative community. Monsanto and other companies have been working hard to push that agenda. The names of these companies are out there. Why the huge resistance and warning against stating the obvious? Of course who controls the seeds and the lack of heritage seeds in circulation obviously narrows the controls over those who produce the crops... And the dumbing down and weakening of immune systems and possibly a multitude of other detrimental effects all point to a very damning conclusion so much so that various European countries have simply banned the use of GMO seeds. Again this is known.

So what is going on here? This man appears to have had an interaction with some kind of AI or possibly mind control to where his original 'program' was modified so that he becomes more an agent provocateur than an outright assassin. Maybe this is just a natural trajectory. It stands to reason that bumping people off and making their lives miserable if they don't toe the line can be a very disheartening way to exist. It might even give one cancer or some incurable disease. Working for the dark side is not good for ones health it would appear.

But from what I know, this person, though it is not revealed on the screen, has gone through a kind of Jason Bourne type of experience... Where his insubordination was punished...yet he survived. From the interview we know that somehow he has managed to convince his handlers that turning him--using him to start a dialog with the 'alternative community' as we are called, is apparently considered a worthwhile exercise or experiment.

And so, he steps forward and does the interview with my partner in Camelot, Bill Ryan. To quote from my recent article called "Wikileaks: The Magus in Deep Black" ..."But those behind the scenes in this surveillance society, the ones who call themselves Magus, who manipulate the effects of the truly courageous actions of the bright stars, diamonds in the rough, under their Control, cannot be ignored. It is necessary that we go deeper into the black, what some would call, above black, to discover the real war being fought."

Indeed this is the real question. Unfortunately this recent interview does little to reveal anything more about the Controllers. The info about UFO's being shot down is also old news. No one, at least no one I know, believed they crossed solar systems to crash from mechanical failures! We know they have been shot down. Particle beam weapons, scaler technology, some early radar based, laser technology from Wilhelm Reich... this is all out there. Indeed the truth is out there. Even this witness agrees.

So what about the "laughter surrounding the 2012" issue? How can this remain a joke when in the next breath he talks about the uncontrollable Sun and the sensibleness of establishing an out of the way 'farm' to prepare for what the future may bring. Starvation is clearly part of the agenda... So storing food in underground bases, out of the way of the dreaded solar CMEs doesn't sound funny any longer. And of course this is what governments are also doing. Why is he contradicting himself one wonders. Unless of course one realizes that is the modus operandi for agents. There is obviously a recognition of the need to throw some truth into the mix, such as the binary system (yes we know this) and modular space craft (yes) in with misdirection and flattery.

So what is the flattery involved and what does it mean? Unfortunately, like any good love affair the implication is that Bill 'turned his head' and made him rethink his priorities. Of course as charming as Bill is, this is still too much to believe. And this is one of the glaring problems within the body of the piece. Acknowledged that it is lonely at the top or close to it, especially when one is a lone gunman.. Finding a fine rapport with an individual of good intellect is albeit encouraging and even gratifying. But does it change the agenda?

Bill states "'Charles has explained that the extraterrestrial race who initiated this project are letting everything unfold with a philosophy of non-interference." This is patently untrue. Evidence to the contrary is everywhere. It does not square with Bob Dean's assertion that the Anunnaki are walking the halls of the Pentagon. Presumably doing more than just 'strolling'. Or Wendell Stevens, the laudable researcher who recently passed on, and who, just before he died, said to his good friend, Bob Dean, that there is no doubt that the Anunnaki are ruling this Earth.

And so, we have what Charles is calling the "Fair contest". Sorry there is no fairness involved here. On the contrary. This game is rigged. Very much so. Since the beginning. Rule by secrecy is what they call it.

When Bill told me about his interaction with Charles I asked him to read a rather old and forgotten book but one that made a great impression on me when I was around 12. Yes, I was young and rather adventurous when it came to reading material. The book is called THE MAGUS by John Fowles. I encourage everyone who hasn't to read it before finding out what happens at the end. Because it is in the journey that one experiences the real effect. But suffice to say, that this mode of operation is how 'they' think. It may be found to be highly instructive when applied to the current drama between Bill and his friendly adversary turned protector.

So what then is the game? And who again, are the Controllers. One source has told me that discussing who they are is off-limits... So are they 33? Are they, as they are reported to consider themselves "pure human"? Or, much more likely, are they really pure reptilian-human hybrids from one branch of the Anunnaki?

Are they of angelic human lineage as described by Ashyana Deane? Unlikely, given they are the self-proclaimed rulers of this planet. Because what is clearer than most anything else is that angelic humans, those who came from off planet are certainly not the Controllers. The takeover by the present group happened back around the time of the altering of the DNA of humanity back in the 'deep abzu' according to the Sumerian tablets. The initial dumbing down. So this group of very wealthy rulers are not pure human at least in this sense, by any means. So that must be a 'cover'.

And where do they operate from? Certainly the City of London is one of their bases of operations. Another, I am told is the state of Israel. Recently, I was told that a major alternative media personality is working as an agent to redirect attention away from the Mossad and the state of Israel because this is an Anunnaki base of operations within the Middle East. Makes sense if you think about it. If they started as Sitchin says they did in Babylon then they aren't far from 'home' at least as far as an earthly sense of that word.

And, they said, this has nothing to do with the Jewish culture. The state of Israel was established as a place for the bankers to operate from, to launder money and one would extrapolate, to establish a stronghold in the Middle East in the center of the oil cartel... This is an interesting line of investigation. Of course, anyone who veers in this direction is instantly accused of being anti-semitic. What a great cover for a deep black operation. This, I am told has nothing to do with the Hasidic or traditional Jews.

Although, it does have to do with the Rothschilds. And the bankers. And ultimately, it is about bloodlines.. what kind of superman inhabits this planet and then, goes out and terraforms others.

If Bill has his wish and manages to get another interview with Charles, it is likely they will begin to sketch out the bloodline issue. But whether this explanation will bring us any closer to the truth is another matter.

Of course Mars has to be one of the more likely real home bases in this solar system at present. All the indicators point to this. The recent information we received regarding the Venture Star and the routine flights off planet from the underground base in Utah, near Dugway.. as the JPL website states... "the Utah Test & Training Range provides the largest overland contiguous block of restricted airspace in the continental United States authorized for supersonic flight, available for aircrew training and weapons testing." That's pretty clear. Room for 35 scientists on each flight, we were told. Very well.

It is a misdirection to say this group of 33 that Charles is referring to is not the "illuminati". The fact is, the philosophy of the illuminati, goes deeply into this group... It must. Because it's the occult philosophy that they clearly use to operate out of. For more on this, read the RA Material.

So what is behind the visit from the lone assassin who has supposedly turned the tables on his handlers and in return found he has tops 4 years to live as a result? Isn't it much more likely that any change of heart on his part (and I wouldn't rule this out, after all, Camelot was established for just such people, defectors, I call them... whistleblowers from the matrix who are coming over to our side. To the light.) But in vetting such a one, we must be careful. Because, as is clear here, this person, not unlike several we have dealt with, is working, even openly as a double-agent. He is reporting back to the 'other' side, while stating that Bill is safe, (and I assume myself) as long as he is alive. Although from the sound of things that would mean our days are 'numbered' as they say if this is true. But, as he says, let the best 'man' win, survival of the fittest... and so on. Let the games begin in other words. On this new round. At the start of 2011.

Note: none of the above is meant to detract from the strong interview conducted by Bill Ryan or the possibility that this man Charles is exactly who he claims to be. Although that is still an open question.

To continue, when Bill uses the opportunity to interview Charles as a platform to make a plea to the so-called 33 for the viability of a different approach to solving the problems on the planet and against their favorite eugenics program.. this is laudable, however quaint in its approach. The trouble is, one must know that they are well familiar with the arguments against. And as Charles says have considered all the options. Sure it doesn't hurt to use this unique opportunity to state the case again... however, I have to say, this ignores the fact that you are talking to the tiger itself, about its own tools in the toolbox, such as free energy and space travel capability probably 1000 years in advance of anything we know of in the public sector and asking if they will consider playing fair. After 1000s of years of doing the opposite, playing on their advantage (off-world advantage) using power in service to self for aeons one rather doubts that another momentary plea will stop them in their tracks or even alter the playing field in any way.

This is actually already an open dialog between the alternative community and 'this lot'. And the answer coming back has sadly been anything but inspiring. But, this does not detract from the fact that this interview, and this kind of dialog is a step in the right direction. One might as well have out with it. The trouble is, that the Controllers are still in hiding. And those who appear to be in charge are being managed. That much is certain. The evidence is everywhere.

So where does this leave us? On the trail of the Anunnaki... for one. No doubt about it. The trouble is, that in this layered game, there are many off-planet races involved. And each group seems to think they are the ones in charge.

Another interesting bit of information from another source tells me that the newest arrivals from 'outer space' are working with the Chinese. And that China is, as a result, building up their war machine at an unprecedented rate. The 'new guys' on the block are not friendly to the rest of us. And they are supplying China with the means to even the playing field. So much for the 'China is our savior' PR campaign that has had some success among the 'alternative community'.

On another note, from what I understand from still another source, Julian Assange may indeed be working for a certain side. And the question still remains when considering who one works for in this game, that what the agenda of the given player is, must be taken into consideration along with that of the group they play for. Because if one finds oneself in sympathy with the agenda of one side, say over another, and, in furthering the agenda of the group one works for one furthers one's own equally important agenda then where's the harm? I imagine this is what we have to consider when looking at the case of Julian Assange or anyone who has behind the scenes elected to work for any group.

What is troubling is when one considers that ones allegiances are often practical as well as limited by the amount of depth and understanding one brings to the big picture... ie. the playing field... in all its dimensions and aspects. This is unavoidable. Where are the blinders? What are the limits of knowledge or prejudice any one individual brings to the table when considering where to cast ones vote or take ones stand? And then, a certain degree of tolerance even kindness has to be brought to bear in understanding why one individual cast their lot in with one group vs. another. The path of light is often shrouded in illusion.

Therefore, the issue with respect to Charles and even Julian has to be: which group and what agenda?? This is where the labyrinth becomes daunting and intimidating in every respect. Because again as perhaps too often quoted and yet too often found to be true, as Hoagland says 'the lie is different at every level'. And what level are we talking about at any given time has to be taken into consideration. Especially when asking or answering a question.

It is instructive to know that information given to humans at this stage is done so with this in mind. And when considering the Galactic playing field the game changes at least from our perspective. This is where false flags such as Project Blue Beam a faked alien invasion aimed at uniting us as Reagan so wistfully put it 'against a common enemy' comes to the fore. And the trouble is, that while they spin this fake alien invasion scenario to certain ends, the real invasion, interference and yes, war, has been going on all along. It's just that many never take the time to look behind the curtain long enough to see it. Layers upon layers.

We are at the brink of a Brave New World indeed. As Corso said 'if you can take it'... and I would add, whether you can take it or not. Moving into this New Year, it is useful to survey the playing field and see where we stand.

Addendum

Ultimately, the question on this planet comes down to sovereignty and then the inheritors. Because all the bloodline secrecy and genetic manipulation has to ultimately result in a race of humanity 2.0 .... possibly even more than one resulting race. Those in control who wish to maintain their control are doing so using money (as energy) but their desired objective is clearly superman or as I have stated, robotic superman because it appears highly likely given their established penchant for technology ... that they will go the way of AI/robotics/biological androids rather than to simply let the human evolve into the highest order of beingness they are capable of.

The potential in our DNA indicates that we have built in capability to be so much more than what we are at present. But allowing that angelic human to manifest is slow in contrast to the manipulated hybrid option. Control of the line is unlikely to yield the best out of this mix... because in the end, it is not perfection we are after but impeccability. This is a profound distinction and one which seems to have been lost at least to those who wish to manipulate our genome.

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More from Kerry:

Given that this interview was a sort of man in the street conversation that does not address some of the deeper issues raised... I feel one statement in particular needs to be addressed.

"'Charles has explained that the extraterrestrial race who initiated this project are letting everything unfold with a philosophy of non-interference." This statement is at the beginning of Bill Ryan's interview with Charles (not his real name) an assassin who was sent to kill Bill or "deal with" him who changed his mind and has since become a sort of representative of what he calls the 33 people who rule the world at least as far as in conducting this dialog with the so-called alternative community. I feel we need to look closer at the above statement.

First of all, the statement is purposely vague. Who "initiated this project" meaning the human race 'project'? A huge question. And I cannot begin to answer it here. Nor do I have all the information. At the moment, I don't know, whether the 33 who call themselves the 'rulers of this Earth' are even aware of the true beginnings of humanity. I do know that there is evidence that the human experiment had more than one beginning on this planet. And was wiped out and restarted several times. Possibly by different ET races. And that it may have started on other planets. I also know that the version of human currently on this planet is a mixture of many genetic experiments (interference) by many ET races. Not the least was what Sitchin referred to as the Anunnaki.

For the best overview of the various experimentations that have taken place on this planet with regard to humanity the Voyager series by Ashayana Deane seems to have the most detailed information. At this point, however, we have a problem. Given that many of us are in touch with various ET races, some through channeling, some through face to face dialog and some through other means such as electronic downloads etc. One may assume that unless the 33 we are talking about here are not human but representatives of the ETs, that they too, are interacting with various ET races in the same ways. Maybe face to face mostly? At that point, assuming they are human and not ET then one must assume they are dealing with at least one race of ETs face to face (more or less) or more. So it comes as a given that they (the 33) are in dialog with and working with the dark, service to self ETs. Why? Because they themselves are, obviously, as seen by the way they run this world, dark. It is expressly clear they aren't listening to the "light side" or the results here on planet Earth would be manifestly different.

However, the problem is we don't know what it is the so-called 33 know and what they don't know. We can however estimate at the very least their understanding of where humanity started goes back to the deep Abzu and the altering of our DNA to limit our development by the Anunnaki. The apparent idea being that we developed so rapidly that we were going to out-populate and evolve beyond the Anunnaki themselves and therefore they would lose power over the humans.. so they dumbed them down. This at least can be understood and the evidence is clear... Our mis-named 'junk' DNA being an indicator of this.

However, in dealing with the interview by Bill Ryan one has to look at the above statement and then give the ET race alluded to in that statement, a name and a face. Needless to say, the statement was too general. But taking it at face value we can make a few basic points. If we assume, the ET race being referred to is those designated as the Anunnaki then we at least have a starting point.

So we need to figure out who the 33 think 'started this experiment'. And whether, the 33 and by default us, are created in their image ie. whether the ET progenitor race used their own DNA to create us or whether they simply started the experiment using DNA from other races/species. I suggest we ask them what they think they know about this... unfortunately at this point, the answer is not forthcoming. Of course the question has been out there for millions of years plaguing humanity.... But I digress. ..

Assuming again, that this time around, the Anunnaki used their own DNA, then we have a Progenitor race and we are their descendants, as are, in theory the 33. But here again you get into more difficulty because the 33 are-- unless they are pure one ET race or another, made up of different strains of DNA just as all of us are.. Even if they are Reptilian and human. If they are human that is still a hybrid... and in regard to the Reptilian side we have, for example, the Reptilian-Anunnaki hybrids. So one cannot even make the statement that the ETs that started this experiment have a policy of non-interference. The evidence is to the contrary because if their current administrators (the 33) are still influenced by them, worship them (!) or follow them.. then by default they are still interfering if only through their descendents. However, we know that the 33 are influenced and we know they are most likely running things a certain way, by the evidence around us, money and bloodlines being their ticket in to their positions... and so on...

But, if I take the premise of the interview with Charles at face value that he is actually a representative of the 33 who really do 'rule the world'. Then what do we have? Well if I rule the world I have armies with black technology that includes free energy, interstellar space travel, bases on Mars and the moon, underground bases here on Earth that comprise whole cities if not nations... since I have all the money I am responsible for starvation, deprivation you name it...I allow it not only that I 'dictate' it and so on. When I say jump all these minions (and governments) in theory jump or I bring pressure to bear in one form or another sometimes in the guise of this man "Charles"....

So given this to be the case.... I am responsible therefore, for the secrecy going back decades, for the wars that are orchestrated by me and my minions, for the famine, the disease and the current state of the planet (not good)...because I have kept the technology and the heritage belonging to the human race secret from them.

I have for example free access to all the deep recesses in the Vatican Library where supposedly much of the truth in written form if it exists at all, resides. I made sure of this because whenever a new discovery was made or ancient text discovered I made sure to spirit it away into my catacombs without it falling into the hands of the masses. I have killed with impunity anyone who 'knew too much' or attempted to usurp my power... and so on.

These rulers are aware of and in charge of the decision made when the 2 ET races (one service to self and the other service to others) met with Eisenhower and we chose to do business with the negative ETs in exchange for technology and let the Greys (who work for the Nordics and Reptilians) continue abductions to create a grey-human hybrid among other things...

As rulers of the earth with black technology, etc presumably I have met with several ET races, my scientists work alongside several races and I am also instructing my military to shoot down the ships of ETs we are at war with.... etc.

So if this man Charles represents the 33... and they are indeed the rulers of this world...then they are dark, dark, power over others, service to self, magicians of the blackest of the black... in essence those known as Dark Lords.

And with this in mind, let's go back to the interview and see just how the questions and answers took place in this interview and see whether any of it makes any real sense. What will be clear from the outset is that so much is not asked, gone unchallenged and unanswered that the only suggestion I can make is that another interview be conducted and this time, prepare the questions for the Dark Lords you wish to address. Because, although we got some of Charles' personal back story we still have heard little of consequence and nothing new so far...

Oh, and by the way, word came back to me that the 33 were not happy with my prior statement. You should tell them that actually I am not at all happy with them either. In fact I am downright pissed-off about it...

You wanna talk? Let's talk.

Go to my previous post Fighting the Good Fight on January 2, 2010.


Update on The Rulers of the World : their response to my response

Although I have very little information to go on, I have been told via Bill, who was told via Charles that my long response entitled Fighting the Good Fight (see below) has upset some of the group that Charles represents.

It should be noted that everything I said is already in the public domain (for the most part) and has been reported by me elsewhere in presentations and if not by me than by our Camelot witnesses and sources. It would appear that there is some value there.

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Everyone reading this thread:

There's an old ILLUMINATI game that is often used to flush-out the enemy and reveal where they are coming from, what they will and won't fall for etc. It involves setting up a topic and then acting as though that topic or question has a secret answer that only you know... Then when the respondent replies you ENCOURAGE THEM with false flattery... to draw them out and ultimately end up revealing nothing and leaving them wondering WTF or what happened. That's what is going on here. Charles says nothing new. You do all the work. He applauds and you continue to reveal yourselves... giving him and his team (the 33) more ammunition by which to enslave you.

Get a grip.

And ask yourselves why. It doesn't matter how. This is nonsense. They will doubtless use planes, trains and automobiles whatever.... The point is WHY would they go for that card?? Of course Werner von Braun warned Carol Rosen about it multiple times. And no, it's not simply because they want a common enemy we can all get on the same team to fight against ala Reagan's well known speech. Although this is an ingredient. Every student of sociology knows nothing works to unite a divided group faster than having a common enemy.

The real reason has to do with the same tactic as 911. You create a false enemy alongside a real one... Then you kill your own people pretending to be aiming at this fake enemy and then when that's done and everyone is on your team you go after a real enemy as you were planning all along....while instituting a Patriot Act type scenario that will go several steps beyond the Patriot Act into the One World Government... And viola. You have a War of the Worlds... and you define the enemy. While the sheep never realize their real enemy is right in their midst. It's you. The so-called rulers. They are the wolves...

They will use the Fake alien invasion to condition you for the real one.... Except, the twist there will be that we have already been invaded. They are the invaders. They are the reptilian/human offspring who want to eliminate you... And wars within or with outsiders is just one more way to do it. Not only that but behind your backs they have been fighting various ET races (invaders) for eons...

Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot
We are the Resistance

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The Charles OP

Re: Charles' comments about a False Flag ET threat event: important new information - posted on Avalon & Camelot Forums

Hi all,

To clarify for the record: I do not think all of Charles material is nonsense or useless. Confirmation of that we already know is always nice... But here we have a substantial amount of misdirects and downright false statements coupled with known and verified/understood info (such as GMO foods)... Sure, coming from Charles if he is who he says he is and works for who he says he does this is useful. But again it is still not new. That is my issue. If we bring forward a whistleblower, we pick and choose based on their insider status and what they bring to the table. I am still waiting to hear something new. We (at least here at Camelot) already have enough verification of the truth behind the matrix...

But this smells like an OP to me. Big time. Remember for an Operation to work the participants must be taken in.. that includes the one triggering it. The fact that it is an OP does not lesson the usefulness to both sides... they are using him as a way in. More on this in coming days....

Kerry

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The Aryan Philosophy Under the Charles Material

Within the constant references to Charles' friend or "master" as he calls him... is the Nazi philosophy of eugenics. He is simply conditioning those who bother to listen to what "they" are planning for you. Survival of the fittest and the rest of it. The agenda has not changed from the days of Hitler and this man is one of their useful puppets. Unfortunately Bill has been deceived as well. His achilles heel is a paternalistic promise of regard and false flattery. Works every time. Take away the flattery and he will soon cease to follow.

Beware. This is not the reality of the future. These people that Charles represents are scheming for their lives. They have no choice. Their days are numbered and they know it. They are not your masters. Wake up! Their only hope is a race of robots they are busily creating... and inviting in to take over what remains of this planet after the shift.

Keep on kissing their asses on your knees and you will find yourselves slaves of a race that views you with even less regard than the ones you thought were your "masters".

Everyone reading this thread:

There's an old ILLUMINATI game that is often used to flush-out the enemy and reveal where they are coming from, what they will and won't fall for etc. It involves setting up a topic and then acting as though that topic or question has a secret answer that only you know... Then when the respondent replies you ENCOURAGE THEM with false flattery... to draw them out and ultimately end up revealing nothing and leaving them wondering WTF or what happened. That's what is going on here. Charles says nothing new. You do all the work. He applauds and you continue to reveal yourselves... giving him and his team (the 33) more ammunition by which to enslave you.

Get a grip.

And ask yourselves why. It doesn't matter how. This is nonsense. They will doubtless use planes, trains and automobiles whatever.... The point is WHY would they go for that card?? Of course Werner von Braun warned Carol Rosen about it multiple times. And no, it's not simply because they want a common enemy we can all get on the same team to fight against ala Reagan's well known speech. Although this is an ingredient. Every student of sociology knows nothing works to unite a divided group faster than having a common enemy.

The real reason has to do with the same tactic as 911. You create a false enemy alongside a real one... Then you kill your own people pretending to be aiming at this fake enemy and then when that's done and everyone is on your team you go after a real enemy as you were planning all along....while instituting a Patriot Act type scenario that will go several steps beyond the Patriot Act into the One World Government... And viola. You have a War of the Worlds... and you define the enemy. While the sheep never realize their real enemy is right in their midst. It's you. The so-called rulers. They are the wolves...

They will use the Fake alien invasion to condition you for the real one.... Except, the twist there will be that we have already been invaded. They are the invaders. They are the reptilian/human offspring who want to eliminate you... And wars within or with outsiders is just one more way to do it. Not only that but behind your backs they have been fighting various ET races (invaders) for eons...

Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot
We are the Resistance


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